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Post by Sebahdee on Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:17 pm

sure enough, someones taken out the whole bulb socket.. shiiit

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Post by HighlyJetted on Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:00 pm

There is a big yellow fuse under the drivers seat, it is above the cross member, sort of underneath the footwell.

I bet you've popped that.

Otherwise there are a couple of fuses next to the ECU under the glove box.

And also the fuses in the fuse box under the steering wheel on the left.


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Post by HighlyJetted on Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:17 pm

Sebahdee wrote:sure enough, someones taken out the whole bulb socket.. shiiit
So its had problems all along and the seller was a bit of a c*nt Laughing

And a bit thick really! As taking the bulb out is what people do that don't have a clue what they are doing.

Put a bulb in, then bridge the diagnostic connector.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:19 pm

Ahh shit, forgot to say - now that you have tripped the fuse, you will have reset the ECU.

So get it all working, run it for a couple of minutes up and down the street, then code read it. Might not tell you very much.

Then you want to take it for a drive till it misbehaves then code read it, to see if it tells you anything more.

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Post by Sebahdee on Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:53 pm

Thank you so much!! so grateful! Strange that it's turning over but not sparking though isn't it..? Took it to a diahtsu dealer and they never mentioned that fuse, did try looking for it but couldn't see anything.. good to know it's definitely there.
Also it's not as simple as putting a new bulb in.. the whole whit plastic socket has been removed. I'll try pinching one from my host van.
I wish I could repay you for helping me out!.. I could send you a postcard.. haha

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Post by HighlyJetted on Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:03 pm

Go check the two blue 15 amp fuses underneath the glove box to the right had side next to the ecu.

And use a bulb in the dash from the fuel light or something as a temporary measure
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Post by HighlyJetted on Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:09 pm

If the big fat 60amp "fusible link" under the drivers seat had gone then I don't think anything much works really, including the starter motor, lights, interior lights  - the lot.

Daihatsu Dealers on the whole like most car dealerships are F***ing W**k at fixing cars so don't waste your time Smile Good at servicing etc though.
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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:50 pm

I'm here with it now at my local garage whilst they go over it dismissing things that could be causing it.
Tried swapping bulbs, no joy. Still no light. Strange ey..? Could this be linked with no spark?
60a fuse intact.

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Post by Logi on Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:59 pm

Do you have ANY electrics? Check the wee wires at the battery. Mine just gave up, no warning.
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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:03 pm

All electrics working except the engine light and plugs..

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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:04 pm

Mechanic suggested I might have melted the ecu..? Or one of the sensors isn't working.
Tested current with a multi meter, electric going to the coils but it doesn't "switch"? Only constant current, doesn't switch between positive, negative or earth. Not quite sure what this means! Haha

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Post by HighlyJetted on Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:23 pm

What about the two blue fuses next to the ECU?

And yes mess with the little wires that go to the battery live terminal
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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:33 pm

Couldn't see any extra fuses apart from one yellow above it and the 8 or so in the fuse block beneath..
To the left of the steering wheel right..? A am looking in the right place?

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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:42 pm

Found them! Thanks ill have a look when I get back to the garage!

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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:56 pm

You genius!! Thank you sir!
She's roaring again! Very Happy 

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Post by HighlyJetted on Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:59 pm

Whats the engine warning light doing? Read me the flash codes Wink
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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:20 pm

Doesn't even come on. Not even during ignition.

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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:20 pm

Ooooo but it might now!.. Haha I'm waiting for a lift back to the garage to pick her up.

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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:02 pm

New bulb in, works on ignition! Goes when fired up. Drove for ten mins and then bulb lights up.
Got it home, did diagnostics.
5 2- vehicle speed sensor..?

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Post by HighlyJetted on Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:14 pm

The vehicle speed sensor is inside the speedo unit.

Just change the whole clock unit with another one.

There have been other people who have had this problem where the vehicle cuts out randomly while driving, normally down a dual carrage way for long distances, then all of a sudden the van loses all power and will not drive although keeps running.

This guy comes to mind:- http://hijet.findtalk.biz/t1150-piaggio-poeter-breakdown

So if you change the speedo over, I bet it drives fine again!

p.s. well done for getting it running again, and getting your warning light working, and reading your codes - that together is very good progress.



P.p.s..... if you read back when you asked me for any hunches, look what I said first Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

HighlyJetted wrote:Yeah loads of hunches mate,

Might be the VSS or the IAT or TPS or MAP or a Relay.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:44 pm

I keep checking this to see his progress, wonder if he's swapping his clocks over?

Wonder if it will fix it?
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Post by Sebbahdee on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:17 pm

This is one of the most useful website I've found on the Internet. Thank you so much, I really don't know what I would have done without your help!..

I'm surprised I haven't come across that thread yet. Perfect! I bet it's the same problem.
I've got two more days until we go so Ill have a go at changing the clock and finally start packing and getting excited!..
Built a temporary bed earlier.
Going to change the coolant too. Been advised to fill it with mostly antifreeze. Earlier this week temperatures hit 58C on the motorway, apparently 100s of people's tires burst haha!

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Post by Logi on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:33 pm

Sebbahdee wrote:Going to change the coolant too. Been advised to fill it with mostly antifreeze. Earlier this week temperatures hit 58C on the motorway, apparently 100s of people's tires burst haha!

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Water is a better thermal conductor than anti-freeze, too much lowers the boiling point.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:40 pm

Never use any more than a 50/50 mix of coolant and water.

As logan says, "antifreeze" reduces the specific heat capacity. Water is actually best.

This website is nothing without its members, and with every member a little more is learned.

Well you have somewhere to sleep now and you can store your stuff underneath it.... let hope the hijet makes it.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:54 am

[quote="HighlyJetted"]The vehicle speed sensor is inside the speedo unit.

There have been other people who have had this problem where the vehicle cuts out randomly while driving, normally down a dual carrage way for long distances, then all of a sudden the van loses all power and will not drive although keeps running.

Thats exactly what the Romahome I bought in Berwick on Tweed did all the way back home 22 times in total. If I kept to around 40 mph it was ok but
shortly after going up above 50 it would lose power but as you say engine would tick over then after a short time would drive ok again . By the time I got to Leicester I had found keeping it below 50 did the trick and got the rest of the way to Southampton without any more problems .

Hasn't done it on the Island. Thanks for that Jem Matt.

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Post by Sebbahdee on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:00 am

What a shame the last bit of that puzzle was never laid with that other thread..
I feel very confident I'm at the last stages of this mystery though!..
So I'm going to tinker around with the clock today, can you tell me exactly what parts I need to focus on? I'm sorry I need things spelled out for me, this is actually the first ever 4 wheeled vehicle I've ever owned!
By clock do you mean the whole speedo and milometer?

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Post by HighlyJetted on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:24 am

Just change the whole clocks unit, e.g. the complete white box with everything in it, bulbs, clocks the lot.

More than likely, when people don't come back, they no longer have a problem Laughing Laughing Laughing 
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Post by HighlyJetted on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:37 am

What I think the problem is with the VSS error, is the vehicle does not know it's moving, so at certain road speeds/engine speeds the ECU tries to tune the fuelling to give better cruising economy, but because the road speed is not being metered the program gets its knickers in a twist and tries to lean down the fuelling for 0 mph, at which point the power all dies but it will keep ticking over. After a little while, the program resets its own fuel trimming back to default and away you can drive.

As woody has said, his did it roughly over 50 mph (about 3000 rpm ish) - so the software must say something like

"when engine speed is greater than 3000 rpm for more than X minutes at a consistent engine speed and road speed THEN trim back fuel until speed decreases"
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Post by Sebbahdee on Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:07 pm

That all makes a lot of sense. Decevingly clever these little vans.
So your saying change the 'dash' -the black face with the speedo, temp fuel etc? What about the reading on the milometer? Can I just change that by spinning the little numbers by finger?

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