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Post by PFM on Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:44 pm

I knew the later vans/mpv's have central locking but until I bought my '08 Porter at the weekend I didn't know it has a remote fob to operate it. Annoyingly, though, the fob doesn't work. The green light on it comes on, and I went to a shop that can 're-code' and they proved it's sending a signal but guess that the cause was the vehicle battery being dead for a while (confirmed by previous owner). Any ideas on how I could fix this or do I have to go back and pay for him to do it?

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Post by HighlyJetted on Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:33 pm

You may have to sync them together some how.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:35 pm

What make is the system... go find the receiver, write down its model number etc, then download a manual for it Wink
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Post by rich the mechanic on Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:37 pm

A lot of the remote systems require a "hold button A while switching main ignition on and off a few million times" while they learn the code
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Re: Central Locking

Post by PFM on Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:46 am

HJ, good thinking, have looked up behind dash but can't see it. Guess it's probably close to the central locking module - whould you know where they hide those?

Rich, yes, I bet there's a simple solution like that - just need to find out what!

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Post by HighlyJetted on Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:29 am

No idea... if I spot it on this SE i've got I'll post up
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Post by Guest on Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:19 pm

I have got central locking on an X reg Pickup !!!! I have two fobs and two sets of keys with it.
Have any of you come across it before on a pickup.??
Have you dinoh as you have had loads of pickups I believe.??

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Post by PFM on Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:31 pm

That's early - my '02 van doesn't have it. Maybe an aftermarket fit?

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Post by Guest on Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:17 pm

I guess you could be right Peter. It does seem odd having it on a Pick-Up-- although it has got a Romahome body on it so that could well be the reason if it is aftermarket.

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Post by PFM on Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:25 pm

Don't suppose you've found where they hide the central locking receiver, Woody?

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Post by HighlyJetted on Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:19 pm

Remote central locking was on the optional extra's list!
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Post by Guest on Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:03 pm

Just dug out the key fobs and they have the CE mark on them and are made by Hawk . cant make out the model number and the only other dicernable  writing is " Licence Exempt ".

I havent had a chance to look in the cab today Peter as I have been out all day getting soaked to the skin pulling down wind damaged fencing and repairing the wifes best friends Cat House and run then returned to my yard to find my neighbours office roof half off so been helping him repair that and rescue all his Computer stuff and files and office equipment that hadnt had a soaking.

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Post by Logi on Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:22 pm

Woody? Yer wife's pal runs a Cathouse???  affraid cheers 

PFM, If yours is a Hawk unit, this may be the answer? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-UPGRADE-REMOTE-KEYLESS-FOR-CENTRAL-LOCK-/330479665244
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Post by PFM on Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:49 pm

Thanks Woody and Logi - mine isn't a Hawk, I'm sure - fob looks just like the one pictured in the manual, so pretty sure it's a Piaggio one. I'd like to find how to re-establish the link though in case it happens in the future.

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Post by Guest on Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:02 pm

Well its better than being in the Doghouse I suppose Logi. Gayle has been lumbered with looking after her best friends two cats while she is on the Mainland for Xmas. I have put some Stirling board ( all the best things come from Scotland I am led to  believe ) on the back of the run which faces due SW into this awful weather and put perspex on the end to also give shelter from the weather. 
Damn animals get treated better than the Husbands. Theres something wrong here !!
Time for a new model ( wife ).

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Post by Guest on Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:06 pm

Yep sounds like this is an aftermarket one then Peter. Tis a pain when the battery goes flat but being a pickup is easy to attach jumpleads to fire up the central locking.

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Post by rich the mechanic on Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:35 pm

The central locking module on our 95 MPV is just below the windscreen level passenger side and can be seen fairly easy if the glove box is out.
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Re: Central Locking

Post by PFM on Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:30 pm

Thanks Rich. Will look there after this interruption-to-normal-schedules. FYI this Porter came from up your way - meant to pm you about it but ran short of time.

Hang on - '95 mpv with c/locking????? Was it offered as an option back then?

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Post by rich the mechanic on Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:41 pm

I don't know but it's deffo not standard the wiring is attrocious and held in place with garden wire in places but the lable on the control box looks like a dealer fit if it was I hope they paid the owner to practice before fitting to paying customers.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:06 am

Yes optional extra on early ones too.

After market kit fitted by the dealer.

Most likely will be a botch job!!
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Post by Logi on Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:07 am

Sad I'd love central locking.
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Post by rich the mechanic on Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:32 pm

This is not much different to what is fitted to our van except the remote is a seperate unit.
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Post by PFM on Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:50 pm

Thanks for all responses. So, found the unit behind glovebox as Rich said. Looked original, no luck when googling number on it. Then hit on bright idea of looking in the manual (not sure why I didn't think of that in the first place) and sure enough, on pp 129 & 130 it gives clear instructions. 10 minute job - now I can make my van flash when I approach it!

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Post by HighlyJetted on Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:14 pm

Which hand book is this in?
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Post by PFM on Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:47 pm

The Porter 1.3 Workshop manual which is (or was) widely available on CD Rom on fleabay - think you have it, HJ.

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Re: Central Locking

Post by ex-whitevanman on Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:53 pm

same problem i have, remote locking was working fine then just stopped for some reason, put new batteries in the fob as one was nearly flat, and still not working. changed the batteries before and never had a problem do i need to re-sync the fob to the c/l module? anyone any ideas? mucho gracias!
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Post by ex-whitevanman on Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:13 pm

PFM wrote:Thanks for all responses. So, found the unit behind glovebox as Rich said. Looked original, no luck when googling number on it. Then hit on bright idea of looking in the manual (not sure why I didn't think of that in the first place) and sure enough, on pp 129 & 130 it gives clear instructions. 10 minute job - now I can make my van flash when I approach it!
could you post the instructions up pleassssse as i could not download a copy of the manual for some reason?
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Re: Central Locking

Post by PFM on Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:32 pm

OK, as you asked nicely:

New remote control detection procedure:
• Open the glove-box cover.
• Remove the screws fixing the glove-box. The position of screws is shown in the following figures.
• Remove glove-box extracting it from the instrument panel.
• Identify, the door locking control unit in the glovebox.
• Remove the door-locking control unit from its
seat so as to be able to reach the cable harness
to which it is connected.
• Identify in the cable harness, a white wire with a
free end.
• Remove the insulating cap from the free end of
the wire.
• Connect the white wire A to the red/white wire
connected to the door locking control unit.
• the vehicle turn indicators flash four times indicating that the detection procedure has started.
• From this time on, the procedure is differentiated
according to the vehicle engine.

• Start the engine.
• The turn indicator bulbs remain steadily on.
• Stop the engine.
• The turn indicator bulbs turn off.
• Press the remote control button to be
learnt.
• The turn indicator bulbs flash one time
confirming the remote control detection.
• Disconnect the white wire A in the control unit from the white/red wire.
• The turn indicator bulbs flash one time
indicating that the procedure has finished.
• Refit the insulating cap on the white
wire.

Final operations:
• Once the insulating cap on the white
wire is refitted, reinstall the door locking control unit in its original seat.
• Refit the glove-box in its original seat
and fix it with the corresponding
screws.

There are other instructions if you have the more advanced Gemini 7563, they run to many pages.

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