Taxing a car without a V5

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Taxing a car without a V5

Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:20 pm

I'm picking up a car later today that has no tax on it. I know the number plate. The DVLA won't let me tax it because I'm not the registered keeper.

What is the point in this system? What can go wrong if they allow people to tax arbitrary cars?
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by bushwhacker on Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:25 pm

They're probably worried about people trying to claim ownership of other people's vehicles on the basis of "I've taxed it, I'll have it".
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:26 pm

Good point, hadn't thought of that.
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by Logi on Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:00 pm

Why did you buy a car without the logbook?
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Post by johnnyboy666 on Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:04 pm

I had a similar ballache when I bought my hijet, had to get a train 150 miles across the country before the post office closed at 12noon!

But I hear that in october or november the whole system is being changed, getting rid of tax discs completely.
Also allowing payment monthly rather than just 6 or 12 monthly. I assume this will also entail a massive improvement in buying tax online and on the phone.
We can hope.

What it will probably mean, is a massive pain in the arse one way or another

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Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:56 pm

Hadn't bought it yet Logi. Picked it up just now, in the end we filled in the Tax disc application online at the chap's house.

The new system (or so I hear) is going to be based on the person, not just the car. So you won't be able to sell a car with tax at all!
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by Logi on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:08 pm

Which will then get the tax disc sent to the registered keeper's address? Which ain't you? Without a V5 how do you check it's not nicked? There's no way to check the car you're buying is what's recorded on the logbook? Also, you need the logbook to tax it online. The ref number is required to complete the application.
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Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:10 pm

Yeah we'll get it sent to the old keeper's address, he's agreed to send it on.
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Post by Logi on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:12 pm

So, if he had the logbook, why couldn't you tax the car yourself at a post office?
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:14 pm

We'd have had to take the logbook, which the old keeper had, not us. He could have taxed it but couldn't before selling because it wasn't insured. I insured the car today and filled in the online form a few hours after when we had the logbook in our hands.
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:15 pm

In case anyone cares, the car in question is a 1992 K10 Nissan Micra bought for £200 which we'll be using in the Mongol Rally
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by Logi on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:17 pm

Yes, but as long as you have the green section you could tax it?
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:18 pm

Logi I understand where we were confused now. When I said "without a V5" I meant *I* didn't have the V5. The car does have a V5.
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:18 pm

Yeah but I need to drive it to the post office first... I was picking up the new keeper supplement at the same time as the car, so needed it to be taxed before driving off.

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Plus we picked it up at 7.30pm so the post office won't be open, so it'd be a 50 mile drive back, and then parked on the road overnight with no tax.
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by Logi on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:22 pm

Yeah I kinda thought that, I was just fucking with yer head Wink

Shoulda got a Hijet for the Mongol Smile
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Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:23 pm

If it was down to me we'd be doing it in my Hijet! My teammate reckons it's not in the spirit of the rally to use a vehicle with that much storage space and ground clearance and has put a stop to the idea.
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by Logi on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:31 pm

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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by jamesstanley on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:34 pm

Awesome!
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Re: Taxing a car without a V5

Post by HighlyJetted on Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:49 pm

Logi wrote:Yes, but as long as you have the green section you could tax it?

Yep, every new keeper can tax their car with the green slip.

Driving without tax is not a major crime - "fail to display a valid road tax certificate" is just a £25 fine or something, maybe £50 nowadays.

You have to pay this even if you have applied online if you are not displaying last month tax disk during the 10(ish) days grace period.

On top of that the police don't even check to look at tax disks most of the time, worst case is they are following you and they radio in an insurance database check.

So if you get caught pay the fine, but if you show them you have all the documents and are on the way to a post office they will let you off anyway.
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