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Subaru Sumo - pleasure or pain?

Post by Antman on Tue May 10, 2016 8:27 pm

Having owned a 4wd Sumo for some years without aggro, the poor old dear is now seriously showing her age and spares are more than difficult to source locally since the dealership changed recently, and of course the new one isn't interested in old stuff.  Currently desperately seeking Starter motor - but any info on where/how to source spares -new or used- gratefully received.  Cheers.

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Post by scotia on Wed May 11, 2016 7:42 am

welcome antman.
i realy liked your movie..

i had to look it up because i never heard of a sumo.
its called a libero/e10/e12 over here in the netherlands.

what year is it?
what engine has it got?
do you have the partsnumber for the starter motor?
it has the same engine as a justy so have you tried one of those?
you could let the old one get refurbished...

i have searched some car parts sites and they are easy to come by over here...
like this one
https://www.winparts.nl/motordelen-toebehoren/startmotor/c834/startmotor/p139573.html?a=t4u/0/0/834/139573&gclid=CjwKEAjwjca5BRCAyaPGi6_h8m8SJADryPLhUaTwaHBugXwel4Bcog_msygwn4Zw5iTMYmyW1cHPbRoCkQ_w_wcB#orgineelnummers

refurbished one
https://www.rexbo.nl/eurotec/startmotor-11040205?c=100359&gclid=CjwKEAjwjca5BRCAyaPGi6_h8m8SJADryPLhPfmbbcMZomICCrQ-tLxz3URIb4Hw7T3J_Xwg_xNgjRoCVRHw_wcB

http://webshop.porza.nl/article/list/4416/10459

i keep seeing nissan partnumbers so i think some sort of nissan starter will also fit...

on the next link it says that it will also fit a justy
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-onderdelen/elektronica-en-kabels/m1043151988-startmotor-subaru.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr
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Post by Antman on Wed May 11, 2016 11:09 am

Hi Scotia,
Many thanks for your quick reply. The 'Sumo' was only available in certain countries apart from UK and may be called by other names elsewhere I think. The Libero is a different body shape but I'll check the part numbers with your leads for matches and come back. Thanks again.

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Re: Subaru Sumo - pleasure or pain?

Post by PvdB on Wed May 11, 2016 11:29 am

Hey there!

I think the Libero is the same model. I've found 2 models. An old one an a newer model. The old one has double headlights (4 total) and the newer one a lumpy front bumper and singe headlights. I assume you have the old model?

Scotia, I've seen one of these old model Libero's also driving around in our neighborhood! It's a gray one. Keep an eye out for him Wink
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Re: Subaru Sumo - pleasure or pain?

Post by scotia on Wed May 11, 2016 1:52 pm

i thought about buying one but went for the carry instead.
i hated the wierd front and rearbumper to much of the libero e12
the glass roof is awsome though

i have seen a orange-red one in hengelo last week
havent seen the grey one.. but would realy like to cheers
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Post by scotia on Wed May 11, 2016 2:01 pm

isnt the old one with the 4 headlights called the e10 and the newer one the e12 ?
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Subaru Sumo /Libero info.

Post by Antman on Wed May 11, 2016 4:17 pm

Hi guys - thanks for all the info. Just looked up 'Sumo' on Wiki - "The Subaru Sumo, known as the Libero in European markets, except the UK/Norway, Columbuss in Sweden and Domingo in Japan,was a microvan produced from 1983 to 1998. It was also called the Subaru E10 and E12 in some places, the names referring to the size of the engines." / Mine is a 1993 1.2 (4headlights) - so E12 I guess. (The first Libero pic. I saw was the later model - hence confusion.) This is good news as there seems to be good sources of parts for the Libero where you are in the Netherlands. The mechanic now tells me that it is just the armature in the starter that is broken - if one of those could be sourced, maybe from a breakers, then he could fix it. Obviously cheaper than a new starter!  Checked the starter for part number but there is nothing stamped inside or out so no help there, but it is identical to the website photos shown as P/N EUROTECH;11040205 /EAN 4250294708182 . As always any ideas to keep the old girl going are much appreciated. Thanks again.

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Post by PvdB on Wed May 11, 2016 4:30 pm

If you have more details I can check if it is the same starter motor as the Subaru Justy. A friend of mine just removed his engine and replaced it with a Suzuki Swift engine. So the starter motor of the Justy is avalible Wink
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Post by PFM on Wed May 11, 2016 8:10 pm

Could be Justyn time?

I'll get my coat....

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Re: Subaru Sumo - pleasure or pain?

Post by Antman on Wed May 11, 2016 9:49 pm

PvdB wrote:If you have more details I can check if it is the same starter motor as the Subaru Justy. A friend of mine just removed his engine and replaced it with a Suzuki Swift engine. So the starter motor of the Justy is avalible Wink
Thanks for your time - I don't think the Justy starter will fit looking at images on google. I showed the mechanic the photo on the site - webshop.porza.nl/article/list/4416/10459  mentioned in scotia's first post, and it is a definite match for the one I have, but if you think it's worth a look that would be very helpful, even if just to discount it. Thanks a lot.

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Post by scotia on Thu May 12, 2016 8:54 am

no thanx man.. thats what the forum is for

why not make your own (project) topic and post some pictures and so.
the litle subaru fits right in our litle club Cool
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Post by PvdB on Thu May 12, 2016 11:05 am

scotia wrote:no thanx man.. thats what the forum is for

why not make your own (project) topic and post some pictures and so.
the litle subaru fits right in our litle club Cool

Totally agree!
Would be nice to see some pictures of your mean 4x4 beast Smile
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Re: Subaru Sumo - pleasure or pain?

Post by Raggy on Thu May 12, 2016 12:17 pm

agree with that...pictures!
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Re: Subaru Sumo - pleasure or pain?

Post by Antman on Thu May 12, 2016 2:50 pm

I'm afraid she's looking a bit sorry for herself at the moment, sitting in a field outside the mechanic's shed in the rain, but I may have one or two pics of the van in an earlier (and easier) life somewhere - I'll try to find them.

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Re: Subaru Sumo - pleasure or pain?

Post by Raggy on Thu May 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Post up pics of how she is now as well, will give you the spur to get her up and running and spruced up once again.
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Post by Logi on Thu May 12, 2016 6:20 pm

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Re: Subaru Sumo - pleasure or pain?

Post by Antman on Mon May 23, 2016 8:29 pm

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Eventually found a pic.  Here she is in another working life...  ..nothing so exciting these days - humping band gear for a living. Thanks again for all good info - Libero (Sumo) starter on order ! Cheers guys.

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Post by Raggy on Mon May 23, 2016 8:44 pm

That looks a nice van Very Happy
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Post by Logi on Mon May 23, 2016 9:53 pm

Useless fact, I've filled the Red Arrows planes Very Happy
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Post by HighlyJetted on Mon May 23, 2016 10:10 pm

What with? Hopes and dreams?
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Post by Raggy on Mon May 23, 2016 10:19 pm

Have you kept the orange light on the top? Very Happy
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Post by Antman on Tue May 24, 2016 11:38 am

Cool Of course !

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Post by scotia on Tue May 24, 2016 1:56 pm

thats so cool Cool
nice van man
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