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Post by andy pyke on Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:29 pm

Don't suppose I'd be lucky enough to find these alloys and them actually be ones that safely fit a Hijet would I? They're on a Hijet now but owner doesn't know whether they're original or if not what vehicle they came from.

Anyone got any ideas?



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Post by Logi on Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:39 pm

They look like Hijet SE alloys? Woody should know.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:07 pm

Yes correct, they are genuine daihatsu SE wheels.

With typical missing centre caps.
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Post by bushwhacker on Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:39 pm

Certainly are Hijet SE wheels.

Could the wheels originally come from something like a Charade via the Daihatsu parts bin?
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Post by HighlyJetted on Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:49 pm

I don't think any charades came with the 4x110 bolt pattern. They were all 4x100 I think.
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Post by bushwhacker on Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:54 pm

They also look like my tyres as well but mine are Barum not BF Goodrich. The size is also the same.
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Post by scotia on Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:37 am

cuores l501 and l201 have 4x110 to but i have never seen a cuore with these wheels...
there arent a lott off 4x110 cars... so i think they were just for the hijet
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Post by Woodie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:07 am

Yes absolutely correct  all of you.  Only the Cuore had the 110 PCD.  Don't understand why Daihatsu did that.  The Hi-Jet  was originally made by Piaggio so presumably they dictated that odd size.

Daihatsu made the Hi-Jet under licence  and every Hi-Jet's   VIN Plate has the Piaggio name on it.
The  Special Equipment  version was only made as far as I am aware on  "N"  and "P"  reg.

If you can get the guy to part with them, take his arm off  Andy.  I have 2 sets but  wouldn't part with them unless I was bankrupt.  It's worth buying the whole van just to get the wheels.   Shame if he has lost the centre caps though.  Wonder if it would be possible to get some made in fibre glass  from  one of the  caps I have.  I can ask a couple of friends I have who work in boat building here.


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Post by Woodie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:19 am





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Post by Woodie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:32 am

Forgot to add my thanks once again to Matt for giving me the "Heads Up" on the wheels. They were being sold by a Daihatsu Dealer in Dover who had parted company with Daihatsu.

I drove down to Dover and picked them up. They wanted to sell all their Daihatsu stock but in truth they didn't have a clue of what they had as their very knowledgeable Storeman had left them and the total of dosh was way out of my league, plus it was spares right across the Daihatsu range.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:45 am

Woodie wrote:Yes absolutely correct  all of you.  Only the Current had the 110 PCD.  Don't understand why Daihatsu did that.  The Hi-Jet  was originally made by Piaggio so presumably they dictated that odd size.

Daihatsu made the Hi-Jet under licence  and every Hi-Jet's   VIN Plate has the Piaggio name on it.


Not true, the S80 hijet was manufactured at Daihatsu in Japan up until about 1992, they released the new s100 in 1994 which was also made in Japan.

There was still a global market for the older S80 hijet like ours so manufacturing was moved and outsourced to Piaggio Italy.

If you see a proper Jap imported Hijet, the Vin plate does not have Piaggio on it.

The original Japaneses S80 Hijet was PCD 4x110, also the S65 launched in 1981 and S70 hijets are both 4x110.

4x110 was a popular Japanese wheel fitment in the 1980's, and it comes from 4 1/3 inches.
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Post by Woodie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:39 pm

I stand corrected Matt. I have always thought that they were of Italian decent. What model number was the late 70's, early 80's 2 cylinder model? I have only ever had one and that too had the Piaggio vin plate.
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Post by Raggy on Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:07 pm

If your alloys are like the last pic from Woodie dont worry as I had mine (not as bad as that though) refurbed at a local unit specialising in that and they came up like new. They were stripped and recoated.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:25 pm

Here are some proper Daihatsu Hijet Vin Plates:-


1992 S83



1996 S110



1996 S100
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Post by Woodie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:36 pm

Well never seen that before Matt. Is that the 3 cylinder or earlier 2 cylinder version . The two cylinder one I had briefly I was told was 550cc but I had no log book with it. I have only had dealing with the 850cc and subsequently 993cc versions.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:38 pm

They will all be 3 pot engines, most likely 660cc to comply with Jap Kei car legislation - the reason why these vans were invented.
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Post by oldie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:02 pm

Velly intoeresting lol! .

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Post by Woodie on Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:18 pm

Yes, it says 659cc on the VIN plates. So I wonder when Daihatsu changed to 3 cylinder from the 2 cylinder copy of the Honda Acty.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:53 pm

I don't know, but Daihatsu are one of the worlds leaders in 4 stroke 3 cylinder engine design.

This is why toyota swallowed daihatsu, and now you find daihatsu engines in french cars and all sorts.

Kei car law in japan has changed over time.

1949 to 1975 = 360cc
1976 to 1990 = 550cc
1990 onwards = 660cc
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Post by Logi on Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:13 am

Definitely not Cuore wheels, that's what's on mine.
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Post by Woodie on Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:30 am

Talking of Honda Acty's , this Four Wheel Drive MPV lives in Cowes and there is a another 2 cylinder, 2 wheel drive one that lives in Ventnor.


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Post by Woodie on Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:06 am




This Two Cylinder Engine, you cannot get any Idea of the size of it. It produced 5,774 Horse Power and the Cylinder Bores are quite easily big enough to get a Hi-Jet Van inside them.
It is in the Warrior Ironclad Battleship of 1860 and is in Portsmouth Harbour Dockyard..
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Post by Woodie on Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:12 am

The brass coloured tube is the support bearing which goes right through the cylinder and out of the the other end.
The Piston or diaphragm is the diameter of the green radially reinforced metal casting.
I think that it is a double acting configuration. It has steam pressure on both directions of travel of the piston.
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Post by andy pyke on Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:10 pm

meanwhile back at those alloy wheels...I went to pick them up today and came home without them. He wants £30 each and they need refurbishing. I'm told that's going to cost £30 per wheel minimum. There's 5 wheels so that's £300 of wheelage....seems like a big number to me.

Am I wrong about the price?

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Post by Woodie on Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:40 pm

A set of 5 is very unusual Andy and I don't think that £150 is over the top although personally I wouldn't pay that. It is purely how much you want them. They are going to be harder to find as time goes by.

How much will a set of new wheels cost. I would imagine that £300 would make a sizeable dent in a new set of 5. There are some very nice looking wheels on the market. A set of stylish new ones would make your van stand out from the rest.
Or do you want it to look original ish? I would go for the newer wheels myself but I was very fortunate in getting new SE ones for not much more than £30 each although cost of getting them added some £10 each. Then the 185/60/13 tyres cost £34 each, but I am more than happy with the overall looks of my MPV with them on.
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Post by andy pyke on Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:47 pm

Hmmm I'm not going for the super original look. In fact, I intend to roller paint it as soon as I can get in to my garage. I suppose at £100 I would have been chuffed but they were so manky that without a refurb they were going to look awful.

Bit annoyed though as I was supposed to be picking up a fuel tank from the same guy and have been waiting weeks for it. He finally dismantled it and found it to be completely rotten.

Btw, what was the outcome of your encounter with those ticks? Did you get the all clear?

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Post by Woodie on Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:11 pm

No, 3 months later I am still laid up with the whole of my lower leg covered in massive scabs. You certainly would be sickened by the pictures I have taken each day to document the progress or regress of the affliction. The Medical term is Cellulitis.

I have spent 8 days in Hospital with the possible prospect of losing the lower leg it was so severe. But it is on the mend now and I have been home for 2 weeks but laid up in bed with the bed tipped up 6" and my left leg on 3 pillows. Bored out of my tree. Probably got another week in bed .

What with the Strokes and the destruction of the Workshop and 2 weeks later getting a stupid little tick bite that has turned out to be almost as devastating as the other two events. Not a good year 2016.
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Post by Logi on Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:15 pm

TBH for around £100-150 more you could get a brand new set of 14's
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Post by Logi on Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:16 pm

Woodie wrote:No, 3 months later  I am still laid up with the whole of my lower leg covered in massive scabs.   You certainly would be sickened by the pictures I have taken each day to document the progress or regress of the affliction. The Medical term is Cellulitis.

I have spent 8 days in Hospital with the possible prospect of losing the lower leg it was so severe.  But it is on the mend now and I have been home for 2 weeks but laid up in bed with the bed tipped up 6" and my left leg on 3 pillows. Bored out of my tree. Probably got another week in bed .

What with the Strokes and the destruction of the Workshop  and 2 weeks later getting a stupid little tick bite that has turned out to be almost as devastating as the other two events. Not a good year 2016.  

Aye, but still being here to moan about it is good, no? Laughing
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Post by Woodie on Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:27 pm

Absolutely Logi. Might even be able to get back to the Workshop in the next few weeks and start sorting out the Fire Damage and get some of the vehicles sorted and sold.
Then with the new Engine Crane I had to buy to replace the burnt one, maybe get a few 1600 engines out of the cars and a couple of 1300 lumps out of the scrap vans.

Just annoyed that I have lost 3 sunny dry warm weeks weather, which should have been spent working.
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