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Post by Shirty on Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:46 pm

HI,

I joined the group a few days ago as my wife & I recently bought a Hijet camper, & joined up to share the experience!

However, it turns out that, unfortunately, not only have we bought the dreaded diesel motor, but it has just gone pop  Sad  & having had a quick trawl around the internet there doesn't seem to be much hope in easily restoring it to running order again.

Long story short, my wife was driving it home after a couple of days away, when she noticed the temperature gauge had shot up, & moments later the engine conked out. Clearly having overheated.
We've been running around for a couple of months, including some longish trips without any indication of an overheating problem, so this has come as a bit of a blow.

So instead of a happy intro, I'm writing to see what options might be available, are these engines readily fixable by the home mechanic? is it possible to convert to a petrol engine? is it worth getting a recon diesel if they are available? or do we simply take the hit affraid

I apologise for my introduction to the group is somewhat gloomy. I hadn't intended it to be this way!

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:01 pm

Woody is your man but as far as I know:
1) No the diesel cannot be swapped easily or at all for the petrol
2) Restoring the engine...hmmm..is it worth it? Maybe, maybe not, Woody will be better to advise on that.
3) Is it a Romahome type camper (box on back) or a van/converted camper?
4) Few details on year, photos etc would be handy
5) When you say it 'conked out' more details are needed I.e did you stop as it overheated or did it stop itself, does it still turn or start etc.
PS Welcome to the world of hijet and madhouse...errrrf I mean forum!
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:31 pm

Hi Raggy,

Thanks for the welcome  Surprised

Its a 1996 camper with the pop up roof, not the Romahome type.
Done around 62000 miles, it came with loads of paperwork, which, gave the impression it had been fairly well maintained over its life.
My wife said it stopped of it's own accord as she pulled over at the side of the road.
It still turns over without making any horrible noises, but won't start. It looks like oil has puked out somewhere while its been going along, as there are drips coming off a number of places.
Will try & post some photos tomorrow evening.

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Woodie on Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:37 pm

Hello and Welcome as David Frost used to say. Bit of bad luck by the sounds of things.
But I have got a good low mileage diesel engine (78,000) with low emissions.
You can email me your mobile number on thehijetmaniow@gmail.com
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:45 pm

A diesel with a pop up roof! Don't think I have ever seem an actual hijet camper with a pop top and a diesel option. Love to see the photos when you get the chance, oh an location, location, location! Fill it in on your profile, you never know who may be nearby to help. Surprised you got away with that and Woody not noticing!
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:46 pm

Woodie wrote:Hello and Welcome as David Frost used to say. Bit of bad luck by the sounds of things.
But I have got a good low mileage diesel engine (78,000) with low emissions.
You can email me your mobile number  on thehijetmaniow@gmail.com

Wow! thanks. I've sent you an email, so look forward to talking later.

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by andy pyke on Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:56 pm

Good karma all around
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by scotia on Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:28 pm

welcome Smile
good luck with the problems
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:48 pm

So thanks again to Woodie, looks like he's come to the rescue!! Very Happy

How easy are these engines to swap? Are any special tools required? I'm relatively handy, I work mainly on motorcycles, but not really used to this kind of job!

And for Raggy - here's a quick piccy, she's not the most glamorous!


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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:31 pm

Thats a Devon conversion and will clean up fine. Mines is the same type of conversion. Its their Hijetta version. They are smashing little vans, keep us updated on your progress and of course...more pics!
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:48 pm

Well it looks like Woody will be able to help me out by supplying a replacement engine. Very Happy

However, I think I will struggle to actually fit it, as I only have basic tools & a driveway. In which case it might be best to sell the van including the replacement motor as a project to someone who has more suitable facilities & look for something else. If anyone is interested drop me a line.

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:59 pm

Before throwing in the towel have you found out exactly what the issue is? Could end up being something simple or at least not as expensive. Clean the engine and see exactly where fluids are coming from first, that will not cost much after all you were happy with it and would have still being going on trips in it if it hadn't happened.
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:51 pm

You're probably right! I'm being rather pessimistic having read how poor the diesel engines in these vans can be Rolling Eyes

So other than a visual cheack for obvious signs are there any other checks that I can do that don't require specialist equipment?
It does still turn over without making any undue noises, but won't start.

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:02 pm

Check it's getting fuel, check water, check ingnition etc, all the basics
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:01 pm

Oops better correct that....forget checking the ignition, forgot it was a diesel! Ignition by compression not spark! Embarassed Anyway check state of electrics while you are at it. Maybe film it and post a video, might give others some clues.
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:44 pm

The immediate thing I noticed was a distinct lack of water! So will fill up with water once I've established that there aren't any other major problems, (I will drain & change for proper coolant in the event that there is no further damage!).

It doesn't seem to have puked oil out as I first thought, I think it was the coolant that was spread out on the underside.The oil level is fine, & doesn't appear contaminated.

The engine does turn over readily & tried to fire once, unfortunately the battery was getting a bit tired, so have taken it off to re-charge.

Is it possible to flood a diesel, like you can with a petrol engine? if so what is the normal procedure to do the equivalent of drying the plugs?

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:55 pm

Think I remember reading the filter can get blocked, check diesel is actually getting to the engine. Could be something as simple as that, hence why it just stopped and wouldn't restart...no fuel?
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by 602 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:20 am

<<<Oops better correct that....forget checking the ignition, forgot it was a diesel! >>>

Hi Raggy,

Blame your dyslexia.

IC = Internal combustion. CI = Compression ignition.

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:49 am

I'm blaming age!
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Post by 602 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:32 am

<<< I'm blaming age! >>>

Hi Raggy,

The technical term is "A Senior Moment".

The 1st rule of growing old is "Never pass a public convenience"

The 2nd and 3rd rules, and the 1st and 2nd signs of growing old are perhaps too "biological" for this forum ... but they caused a nurse at the Urology Dept of the General Hospital to giggle. I like to spread a little happiness. ;-)

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Raggy on Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:25 pm

I have a feeling you will fit in just fine on the forum Laughing
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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:42 pm

Right then chaps, back in line now!  Smile

Latest update, I borrowed a heavy duty battery, & have managed to start up the engine!!

However all is not well, there is a lot of white smoke coming out of the exhaust, & it doesn't tick over, running roughly then stopping, but it does seem to rev OK at higher revs.
Also, water is coming out of the overflow tank under the passenger seat, I don't know if it's because I overfilled it or if it it being pressurised in some way, like maybe a blown head gasket.
So, any thoughts on what might be causing these symptoms? Is the engine still toast!?

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by 602 on Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:41 am

<<< Also, water is coming out of the overflow tank under the passenger seat, I don't know if it's because I overfilled it or if it it being pressurised in some way, like maybe a blown head gasket. >>>

Hi Shirty,

An MOT garage can poke an exhaust gas analyser into you rad, check for fumes. £££

My way ... don't know if you can do it with modern plumbing ... is to poke the overflow pipe into a jar of water. All caps in place, start the engine. If you get a steady flow of bubbles from the pipe, you have a blown gasket or cracked head.

Chucking fumes into the water jacket, at combustion pressure, can blow a radiator hose. That happened to my son as the Yellow Taxi drove away, after taping up the leaking hose. Turn key, bang (pop?), water everywhere.

If you have a coolant leak, relieving the pressure cap will prevent the leak being pressurised, take longer to empty the rad. It will also make the water boil at a lower temperature, so you can add more water sooner. I don't know if that is good advice for a Hijet engine.

About five years ago, after more than 50 years of undoing rad caps on hot engines, I finally got "bitten". Ouch! Immediately stuck my hand in a muddy puddle ... but I still lost all the skin off my thumb. That would not have happened if the rad had not been pressurised.

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:46 am

Thanks 602, I think the motor is beyond repair, fortunately Woodie is helping me out with a replacement.

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Re: New owner - tale of woe!

Post by Shirty on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:21 pm

The good news is that I should be receiving the replacement engine from Woodie later this week. Smile

The bad news is that, having chatting it through with Woodie, it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to tackle the engine swap, as I don't have access to the facilities needed, & sadly I'm going to have to put the van & engine up for sale as a project.  Sad

I will put a notice in the for sale section also, but if anyone is interested please don't hesitate to message me.

Thanks for the help.

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