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Post by leopard_pagan on Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:22 pm

Had van in for the brake issue, thinking it was going to be worn pads.. pads were in fact ok. its the Master cylinder buggered.
just had a look at the manuals.. & they dont have a section on the brakes!
i need to replace the M/C & trying to work out where the sod resides.. will i need to get the dash off to get to it or not.

garage have said that its best to replace it than get a seal kit, parts probably work beyond repair...
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by kentgpz11 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:14 pm

It's under the steering wheel, to the right of the steering column.
Not sure how much dismantling is needed to remove it though.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by PFM on Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:42 pm

The Porter 1.3 16v manual shows the master cylinder. I've always been suspicious about s/h brake hydraulics and not wanted to take the risk. Might be worth a call to Womoco and see if they do a seal kit for it.

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Post by rich the mechanic on Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:53 pm

Woodford motor co are no longer a Daihatsu dealer they are now Suberu whether thay have parts or can get still I have no idea.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by PFM on Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:13 pm

Well, I guess no-one is now as Daihatsu's aren't imported anymore. Womoco still do parts though - I had a wheel cylinder from them (£OUCH) last year. I wonder if there's an easy way of getting parts through a Piaggio dealer in Italy?

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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by Logi on Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:29 pm

AFAIK Daihatsu don't do a seal kit, i priced a master cylinder when my brakes were buggered, luckily i had a spare pair of pants..... affraid
The master cyl/ servo unit is a bit of a bugger to get to but you don't need to remove the dash.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:58 am

How much were you quoted for one?

Wheel cyilender £23 from jap parts each
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by Logi on Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:28 am

£600 ish........
Second hand will be the way you go, Wink
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:23 pm

Shocked thats what i paid for the van!

got one offer of a 2nd hand one £40 but from a diesel van. dunno if it will fit
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:59 pm

Got offer of two parts:
Master cyilender from a deisel van & off a 1.3 Y reg.
Will any of these fit my van? The deisel is a 993cc
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by HighlyJetted on Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:30 pm

Firstly I Don't know jack!!!!!

Dervs don't have a vacuum source the same as a petrol, they use a vacuum pump driven off the crank somewhere.

Where petrols pull from the inlet manifold.

Not sure if this effects the diaphragm size/fitment on a hijet???

More of a heads up for what to check!


As for seal kits, often you can take the thing apart and just replace the seals for generic parts from a good engineering supplies.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:27 pm

surely the braking systems would be the same between the vans of same age?
been told not to get a seal kit as wont last as long.. but nor will a 2nd hand M/Cylinder.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by Logi on Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:46 pm

Found this, some prices are pretty good, maybe worth asking?

http://www.onlineautomotive.co.uk/Products.aspx?CategoryID=55114
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by HighlyJetted on Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:38 pm

leopard_pagan wrote:surely the braking systems would be the same between the vans of same age?
been told not to get a seal kit as wont last as long.. but nor will a 2nd hand M/Cylinder.

You just never know, you pays your money and take your chances.

But as you have to take your van off the road when you take the old one off, if your rebuild fails then your hunting for another one anyway.

Out of interest why do you think its the master cylinder? Does the pedal sometimes go straight to the floor with no resistance?
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:53 pm

Garage who I asked to check pads/bleed/etc said it was as peddle travels too far. They know that I do work on it & get my own parts so havnt quoted for it.
Basically I press peddle almost to floor before anything happens & maybe stop! I have to use engine braking 100% of the time.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by 8bit-ash on Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:28 pm

Think (95% sure) the 1.3 and 1l master cylinders are different.


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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by Logi on Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:03 pm

Have you tried adjusting the brake pedal travel?
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:49 pm

yes they did that Logi, gave me only a little extra on the already crap brakes Very Happy

Brake Master Cylinder
Warranty:
System Code:J3106009

Fitment:Daihatsu Hi-Jet 1.0 Petrol
Year Range:1994 to 1998
Body Type:Van
Category:Brake Master Cylinders
CC:1000
Cylinders:3
Engine Code:CB42
Transmission:Manual
Chassis No:S85
Please call for price ----> yeah i bet its a few hundred quid! but yes i will phone for a price tomorrow...
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by HighlyJetted on Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:52 pm

Sure you ain't got an air pocket in the system somewhere?

Or the back drums adjusters are setup wrong?

You can do a pressure test on the master cylinder if you lay your hands on a gauge kit.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:10 pm

garage bled the system, checked the pads. brake still no better; they then checked the master cylinder & said this was the cause.

I have emailed several "van breaking" ebay sellers, posted on here, done 2 "part finder" type sites.. and no one has got anything of use. Dealers want £190 which i cant afford. cant find any seal kits for the van.
now looks like the end of Hovis! MOT expires 25th Feb. will be taken off the road until i can find something, if nothing in a month. Hovis will have to go. Crying or Very sad
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by bushwhacker on Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:31 pm

What about this one? Probably still too expensive and the year might not be right so you will need to check with them. (Might also need to specify RHD just in case).

http://www.octimex.com/DAIHATSU/HIJET-Bus-S85/1.0-i/PS-48-KW-35/Brake-System/Brake-Master-Cylinder::-::9168_100026.html

Works out at £149.67 + €19.95 delivery. (Don't know what that is but I think £1= €1.1987).
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:50 pm

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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by Logi on Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:39 pm

According to that, the master cyl is the same on the 1.3?
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Post by 8bit-ash on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:05 pm

These guys had one a couple of months ago, i'd give them a call -

http://www.norfolksalvage.co.uk/
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:22 pm

emailed norfolk breakers.

in the 2nd link E136.30 if you click on the "bus" it gives you a drop down menu to expand details.
now i am sure my van is 998cc.... instead of a 993cc.. (those few cc count ya know!)
dont see anywhere showing same as 1.3...? unless its the same part number?
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by bushwhacker on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:32 pm

If you click on 'Piaggio' it lists only 993cc as well, which is all that is mentioned in the Owner's Handbook and the Workshop Manual. So, I would assume from that the 1.3 master cylinder might be different in some way.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by 8bit-ash on Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:27 pm

I was searching for a bit today amongst my junk and I came across a Master cylinder - Bendix 60317. Not sure if it came from a 1.3 or a 1.0 though. I currently have a Bosch one also from a 1.3 which I plan to use. I think I got the Bendix one when I was having brake problems before and must have forgot about it.
Its yours for £15 if its any use to you.

If you can take a decent pic of yours I could compare it externally at least.
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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by leopard_pagan on Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:44 pm

A eBay seller/breaker assured me he has swapped 1.3/1 master cylinders with out issue.
I'll buy that off ya & if it doesn't fit I'll just sell it on.
Can you send me a paypal payment request to:
(My User Name)@yahoo.com **

It's raining cats n dogs & been riding my bike most this week do havnt been able to check part numbers


** this address is over 15 years old! my spam filters work hard lol


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Re: 993 Brake master cylinder location

Post by Logi on Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:53 pm

You maybe want to sort yer email to avoid spammin?
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Post by 8bit-ash on Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:43 pm

Now emailing you.
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