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Post by elfin girl on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:02 pm

hehe just saw that one on ebay, been having a browse to see whats out there, rich is gonna do a compression test for me tommorow eve will have a better idea then, im not holding out much hope im pretty sure its the hg, im having to bleed the system whenever i drive more than 15 miles, not even bothering with coolant now its not in there long enough anyway!
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Post by HighlyJetted on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:20 pm

daisydon wrote:hehe just saw that one on ebay, been having a browse to see whats out there, rich is gonna do a compression test for me tommorow eve will have a better idea then, im not holding out much hope im pretty sure its the hg, im having to bleed the system whenever i drive more than 15 miles, not even bothering with coolant now its not in there long enough anyway!

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Post by rich the mechanic on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:32 pm

HighlyJetted wrote:Jesus, keep an eye on him, he's a little bit wayyy little bit woooo

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Post by HighlyJetted on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:40 pm

rich the mechanic wrote:I have changed the head gasket in ours 6 times.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Wink Razz

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Post by elfin girl on Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:21 pm

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rich the mechanic wrote:I have changed the head gasket in ours 6 times.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Wink Razz

(this is where I duck)

yeah, was gonna bring that up!!!
just want compression test, i dont have the equipment, at a garage they protest if you hang over thier sholder and watch and ask stupid questions, i hate it that your not allowed in now to see what they are doing, bloody elf n safty.
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Post by PFM on Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:29 pm

daisydon wrote:hehe just saw that one on ebay, been having a browse to see whats out there, rich is gonna do a compression test for me tommorow eve will have a better idea then, im not holding out much hope im pretty sure its the hg, im having to bleed the system whenever i drive more than 15 miles, not even bothering with coolant now its not in there long enough anyway!
I have same symptons, but I have a leaking rad Sad

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Post by HighlyJetted on Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:37 pm

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daisydon wrote:hehe just saw that one on ebay, been having a browse to see whats out there, rich is gonna do a compression test for me tommorow eve will have a better idea then, im not holding out much hope im pretty sure its the hg, im having to bleed the system whenever i drive more than 15 miles, not even bothering with coolant now its not in there long enough anyway!
I have same symptons, but I have a leaking rad Sad

Think my red one is in that camp too, someone's tried to do a repair on it but really they are like exhausts - when you start patching them they are ready for the bin.

Funnily though it came with a radiator in the boot, it's got a tag on it saying "ebay piaggio porter" and it is the right one. But it has a few bash marks although it looks pretty damn new. I plan on connecting to the compressor and seeing how it fairs at a bar full of air in a tub of water. Otherwise its time to buy a couple of new radiators as the pickup in the garage needs one too. I have 3 old rads and need 2 new rads, wonder if they'll do me a deal?
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Post by rich the mechanic on Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:11 pm

Change 1 was as it had gone when we bought the van but head was just over warp allowence so second time was also with head skim third time was head came loose fourth time was cam belt tensioner failed and bent the valves in cylinder 3 and the fifth time was the head gasket failed between pots 2 & 3 that was it so not as many as I thought. Daisy it is really boring the comp test it takes longer to set up than to do per cylinder.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:05 pm

i have just ordered me one of those block test kits, £38 on ebay including post.
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Post by elfin girl on Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:09 pm

So compression was low, a bit of oil in cylinders brought it up to the lower end of acceptable if I remember rightly one them was higher than the others?
I got back ok, after breaking down about 1/2 mile down the road...... I did have a bit of a panic till I realised one of the ht leads weren't connected!
Cheers for checking that for me rich,
rad cap still leaking, gonna get a block test done to confirm then I don't know what to with it :-/
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Post by rich the mechanic on Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:51 pm

No probs sorry for the HT lead to used to our 3 pot. Embarassed
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Post by elfin girl on Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:12 pm

rich the mechanic wrote:No probs sorry for the HT lead to used to our 3 pot. Embarassed

Don't worry, I used to do it on the metro all the time, and you can see all 4 at the same time on that! I only had a small panic attack and nearly got run over getting out of the van!

Found a friend with a block tester so I don't even need to buy one!
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Post by rich the mechanic on Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:17 pm

daisydon wrote:Found a friend with a block tester so I don't even need to buy one!

Hope that will confirm it either way I thought the comp had till the oil whent in.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:40 am

A pressure gauge type compression test is a very vague game on an old engine. As it only gets cranked over slow on the starter motor, and with things like old dirty valve seats etc it doesn't tell you all that much. Although it will tell you if something is really really knackard, but you'd know that anyway as it would be really down on power and it would be crap to try and start.

With your troubles, just like mine on the red one, I'd recommend the chemical block test, pressure test of the coolant system, and a proper pressure test of the radiator. And that is my agenda for when I get this building job done and signed off tomorrow £$£$£$$$$$ Wink I might treat myself to one of those coolant pressure testing kits too depending on how the block test goes.
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Post by elfin girl on Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:11 pm

Yeah,just thought as I had the opportunity to get the compression test done, for age of engine I didn't think it was too bad,
borrowing a block test kit tommorow, ill know more then, I really hope im wrong, if I am then it's gonna be replacing all clips and any worn pipes, checking all joins in the cooling system, ect ect

I checked out my log book yesterday, on the 24th I've had the van for four years, in that time all it's cost me (other than the required leagal stuff and fuel) is an exauhst brake pads and and few tyres, so I suppose I shouldnt be too hard on it!
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Post by HighlyJetted on Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:55 pm

Aye' Cheap motoring right there.

So just think, spending a few quid on the right tools to get yourself straight is a wise investment, tools you'll own till your old like Logi.

How much would a set of tyres cost for a new mini? About £160 a corner from memory, let alone brakes, servicing and what you'd lose on it.

If it need a new radiator at £110 so be it, and if you need to do the head gasket and buy a few other bits it's hardly scratching the surface.
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Post by elfin girl on Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:19 pm

Done the block test
It's not the head gasket... It's not the head gasket.... IT'S NOT THE HEAD GASKET!!!!!!!

So, proper clean up and replacement of pipes and clips is next job on the list, I need it working by nov for my trip to Cornwall
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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:45 pm

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daisydon wrote:if you dont hear from me within the next 48hrs send out a search party

IIRC the last person to say that on here wasn't heard from in about a week - she forgot she'd posted it I think! Needless to say, search parties were not forthcoming.

Hope it's done the trick and you make it back safely and on time.

If you're meaning me PFM.. Very Happy I have moved house and been v busy in the process, the van has been off the road for several weeks due to the same dang problem re: overheating. I haven't been able to post anything useful as we've only just started looking at her again. We've tested and tested and the head gasket hasn't gone - stumped!! and thinking of pushing it off a cliff.. arrgghhhhh!!!!!

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Post by elfin girl on Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:54 pm

Can I just confirm with everyone driving the 1.3s that the rad cap is the same as the expansion pipe cap?!
Noticed today that giving the rad cap a little push makes it piss water out too, gonna check in the morn see if it does it when engine cold
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Post by elfin girl on Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:56 pm

The_Magic_Bus wrote: thinking of pushing it off a cliff.. arrgghhhhh!!!!!

I know how you feel!
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Post by HighlyJetted on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:07 pm

fancy telling me exactly how you did this test, the whole process guys, the devil is in the detail
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Post by Logi on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:08 pm

Here's some interesting tales..

http://www.daihatsu-drivers.co.uk/node/3069
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Post by elfin girl on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:12 pm

HighlyJetted wrote:fancy telling me exactly how you did this test, the whole process guys, the devil is in the detail

The block test?

Used an extension hose that was with the kit over the opening off the expansion pipe, put the gizmo in/on that, pumped the tester as per instructions, did about 10 more times than instructions said to make sure the liquid was not gonna change colour (with engine running obviously!)

You have to be carefully not to suck water up the tube tho!


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Post by HighlyJetted on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:01 pm

how hot did you have it, did you put it under load while sniffing the gases with the chemical test
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Post by elfin girl on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:05 pm

it was warm enough that the water had started leaking out from the rad cap and there were bubbles rising in the expansion pipe and i reved it a bit,
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Post by HighlyJetted on Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:50 am

Logi wrote:Here's some interesting tales..

http://www.daihatsu-drivers.co.uk/node/3069

Rife!! I wonder how many actually were cured, and if so was it the head gasket or just the jubilee clips and other bits along the way.

Thermostat housing is pretty crap design, plastic weak thing.

I'm not bodging my one with switches and non sense. I'm going to solve it properly.
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Post by HighlyJetted on Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:14 am

Here's my theory on doing an accurate chemical sniff test:-

First make a one off "header tank" out of some thing crude, sod the crap explanation, try this shit diagram Wink Arrow



Then take it for a good drive till your bag has ample newly create gas, Pull over and test it.

I'm just having stupid ideas right.
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Post by PFM on Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:02 am

The_Magic_Bus wrote:If you're meaning me PFM.. Very Happy
I do believe I was - good to hear from you again. Suggest you start a new thread if you want to discuss your overheating - this one's pretty busy.

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Post by elfin girl on Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:37 am

Hj, seems pretty elaborate, not sure I could drive around Using one hand cos I'm holding that thing tho!

I am however having doubts on the accuracy of the test, we did do a pressure test on the cooling system from the expansion pipe and although there was water coming out of the rad cap the pressure was slowly increasing, To 15psi, surely if water is escaping the pressure shouldbe dropping? And where else can the pressure be coming from if not the engine via the hg?

Doing more tests tonight
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